[conlang_learners] Voting procedure wiki page

Tony Harris tony at alurhsa.org
Sat Aug 29 06:24:17 PDT 2009


Thanks!

Truly, though, my reason for not wanting to vote is that I'm not really 
planning to participate in the learning part, as in I'm not looking to 
learn one of the other conlangs.  I'm very happy to invest my time 
extensively if the group were to choose to learn Alurhsa, and happy to 
help a lot as well if Itlani is chosen.  So I mainly came to listen in 
on the discussions at this point (although it sounds like I'm a bit late 
for that).


Olivier Simon wrote:
> Hi Tony !
>  
> If you've already  joined us (at least yesterday) I don't see why you 
> should be banned from the vote. My opinion applied only to the time 
> during the voting period and the tiny period before (Jim and his 
> helpers might need a few time to prepare the list of entitled voters 
> before the vote is open). Being a conlang-inventor shows that you 
> supposedly have knowledge on this topic and that your vote may be 
> interesting (of course, if you really don't feel like, you are not 
> obliged to vote...)
>  
> Olivier
> http://sambahsa.pbworks.com/
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> --- On *Sat, 8/29/09, Tony Harris /<tony at alurhsa.org>/* wrote:
>
>
>     From: Tony Harris <tony at alurhsa.org>
>     Subject: Re: [conlang_learners] Voting procedure wiki page
>     To: conlang_learners at conlang.org
>     Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 6:08 AM
>
>     For what it's worth, I'm one of the late joiners.  I probably will
>     not vote, as my reason for joining was that I heard my own
>     conlang, Alurhsa, as well as Jim Hopkins' Itlani which I know
>     fairly well, were candidates.  If either of those is chosen, I'll
>     seek to be as much help to everyone as I can, but if another is
>     chosen I most likely won't join the learning community just
>     because I have so much going on anyway.  Hence why I don't want to
>     vote as it seems inappropriate for me to affect the result.
>
>     Olivier Simon wrote:
>>     Bun meredas Padraic !
>>      
>>     Yea, that makes sense. Considering the fact that the voting
>>     period will stretch between 1° and 8 september (so, a one week
>>     span), it is necessary to freeze the "citizenry" ("electorate" I
>>     prefer) immediately, or at last before the opening of the voting
>>     period. ("the critical date" as jurists say). If the electoral
>>     membership can still vary within the voting operations, it gives
>>     the impression that someone seeks to manipulate the ballot...
>>      
>>     Olivier
>>     http://sambahsa.pbworks.com/
>>
>>     --- On *Sat, 8/29/09, Padraic Brown /<elemtilas at yahoo.com>/* wrote:
>>
>>
>>         From: Padraic Brown <elemtilas at yahoo.com>
>>         Subject: Re: [conlang_learners] Voting procedure wiki page
>>         To: conlang_learners at conlang.org
>>         Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 4:31 AM
>>
>>         -- On Sat, 8/29/09, Jim Henry <jimhenry1973 at gmail.com
>>         <http://us.mc574.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jimhenry1973@gmail.com>>
>>         wrote:
>>
>>         > Something we haven't discussed enough, perhaps, is voting
>>         > eligibility.
>>         >  Do we want to limit the voting to people who are members
>>         > of the
>>         > conlang_learners mailing list or were members of the list
>>         > before a
>>         > certain date?  If so, I can supply a list of names and
>>         > email addresses to the vote counters.
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>>         For all practical purposes, the "citizenry" concerned with
>>         this particular vote is restricted to people who are reading
>>         this list. It makes sense to define eligibility in terms of
>>         list membership; but then not make a big deal out of it,
>>         because how many people nòt reading the list even know what's
>>         going on here? I do think it makes sense for you to supply
>>         the vote counters the list of group subscribers so they can
>>         become familiar with how many folks are subscribed and who
>>         they are. If all of a sudden 400 ballots come pouring in,
>>         they'll know something is fishy. And they'll know which of
>>         those 400 ballots are "legit".
>>
>>         > Jim Henry
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>>         Padraic
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