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Thanks!<br>
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Truly, though, my reason for not wanting to vote is that I'm not really
planning to participate in the learning part, as in I'm not looking to
learn one of the other conlangs.  I'm very happy to invest my time
extensively if the group were to choose to learn Alurhsa, and happy to
help a lot as well if Itlani is chosen.  So I mainly came to listen in
on the discussions at this point (although it sounds like I'm a bit
late for that).<br>
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Olivier Simon wrote:
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        <div>Hi Tony ! </div>
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        <div>If you've already  joined us (at least yesterday) I don't
see why you should be banned from the vote. My opinion applied only to
the time during the voting period and the tiny period before (Jim and
his helpers might need a few time to prepare the list of entitled
voters before the vote is open). Being a conlang-inventor shows that
you supposedly have knowledge on this topic and that your vote may be
interesting (of course, if you really don't feel like, you are not
obliged to vote...)</div>
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        <div>Olivier</div>
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--- On <b>Sat, 8/29/09, Tony Harris <i><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tony@alurhsa.org"><tony@alurhsa.org></a></i></b>
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From: Tony Harris <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tony@alurhsa.org"><tony@alurhsa.org></a><br>
Subject: Re: [conlang_learners] Voting procedure wiki page<br>
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:conlang_learners@conlang.org">conlang_learners@conlang.org</a><br>
Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 6:08 AM<br>
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          <div id="yiv522019807">For what it's worth, I'm one of the
late joiners.  I probably will not vote, as my reason for joining was
that I heard my own conlang, Alurhsa, as well as Jim Hopkins' Itlani
which I know fairly well, were candidates.  If either of those is
chosen, I'll seek to be as much help to everyone as I can, but if
another is chosen I most likely won't join the learning community just
because I have so much going on anyway.  Hence why I don't want to vote
as it seems inappropriate for me to affect the result.<br>
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Olivier Simon wrote:
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                  <div>Bun meredas Padraic !</div>
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                  <div>Yea, that makes sense. Considering the fact that
the voting period will stretch between 1° and 8 september (so, a one
week span), it is necessary to freeze the "citizenry" ("electorate" I
prefer) immediately, or at last before the opening of the voting
period. ("the critical date" as jurists say). If the electoral
membership can still vary within the voting operations, it gives the
impression that someone seeks to manipulate the ballot...</div>
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                  <div>Olivier</div>
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--- On <b>Sat, 8/29/09, Padraic Brown <i><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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wrote:<br>
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From: Padraic Brown <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Subject: Re: [conlang_learners] Voting procedure wiki page<br>
To: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
 href="http://us.mc574.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=conlang_learners@conlang.org"
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Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009, 4:31 AM<br>
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                    <div class="plainMail">-- On Sat, 8/29/09, Jim
Henry <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
 href="http://us.mc574.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jimhenry1973@gmail.com"
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> Something we haven't discussed enough, perhaps, is voting<br>
> eligibility.<br>
>  Do we want to limit the voting to people who are members<br>
> of the<br>
> conlang_learners mailing list or were members of the list<br>
> before a<br>
> certain date?  If so, I can supply a list of names and<br>
> email addresses to the vote counters.<br>
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For all practical purposes, the "citizenry" concerned with this
particular vote is restricted to people who are reading this list. It
makes sense to define eligibility in terms of list membership; but then
not make a big deal out of it, because how many people nòt reading the
list even know what's going on here? I do think it makes sense for you
to supply the vote counters the list of group subscribers so they can
become familiar with how many folks are subscribed and who they are. If
all of a sudden 400 ballots come pouring in, they'll know something is
fishy. And they'll know which of those 400 ballots are "legit".<br>
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> Jim Henry<br>
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