[conlang_learners] problems with diacritics
Dayle Hill
dwhmusic32 at yahoo.co.uk
Tue Jun 16 13:07:20 PDT 2009
Sellamat prients !
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Thanks for this interesting list, Matthew.
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I could review rapidly most of the languages present.
I fear there's already a first selection criterion (not depending on my private appraisal of each language):
Some of the projects proposed function with diacritics that aren't available on most keyboards... I have the impression this dooms them to exclusion for the purposes of this group, since we won't be able to communicate in writing between ourselves in such languages, in case we'd learn them.
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Any solution ?
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Olivier
The only thing I can think of here is that if the diacritic characters can be written using a secondary spelling...such as the Germans do..eg: Schön/schoen...gemütlich/gemuetlich etc....and likewise for consonants. My own conlang is highly 'diacriticalized', but I'm currently putting in place a non diacritical spelling system just for this type of issue.
Dayle
"Can the future really be predicted? Even those who claim that they can, look both ways before they cross the road"!
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Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:08:22 -0400
From: "Roger Mills" <rfmilly at msn.com>
Subject: Re: [conlang_learners] The three deaths
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That msg., interesting as it may/may not have been, was meant to go to the
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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:19:46 -0400
From: Jim Henry <jimhenry1973 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [conlang_learners] shortlist
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2009/6/15 Matthew Turnbull <ave.jor at gmail.com>:
> I've made a page on frathwiki, from a list I was making for myself
> http://wiki.frath.net/Learners_shortlist, It can just be copied onto another
> wiki, if need be.
Thanks. I've added a number of links, especially for Kalusa.
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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:58:19 -0500
From: Matthew Turnbull <ave.jor at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [conlang_learners] shortlist
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cool, If anyone else wants to nominate a language, just put it on the page,
I'm going to go alphabetise the languages.
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 1:19 AM, Jim Henry <jimhenry1973 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2009/6/15 Matthew Turnbull <ave.jor at gmail.com>:
> > I've made a page on frathwiki, from a list I was making for myself
> > http://wiki.frath.net/Learners_shortlist, It can just be copied onto
> another
> > wiki, if need be.
>
> Thanks. I've added a number of links, especially for Kalusa.
>
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> Jim Henry
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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:36:23 -0400
From: Jim Henry <jimhenry1973 at gmail.com>
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2009/6/16 Matthew Turnbull <ave.jor at gmail.com>:
> cool, If anyone else wants to nominate a language, just put it on the page,
Yes, please... but it would also be good to make a post to the list
saying why you think conlang X is worth learning, rather than just
editing the wiki page and not saying anything about it here.
> I'm going to go alphabetise the languages.
Thanks.
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Jim Henry
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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:46:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Olivier Simon <cafaristeir at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [conlang_learners] shortlist
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Sellamat prients !
?
Thanks for this interesting list, Matthew.
?
I could review rapidly most of the languages present.
I fear there's already a first selection criterion (not depending on my private appraisal of each language):
Some of the projects proposed function with diacritics that aren't available on most keyboards... I have the impression this dooms them to exclusion for the purposes of this group, since we won't be able to communicate in writing between ourselves in such languages, in case we'd learn them.
?
Any solution ?
?
Olivier
http://sambahsa.pbworks.com/
--- On Tue, 6/16/09, Matthew Turnbull <ave.jor at gmail.com> wrote:
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Subject: Re: [conlang_learners] shortlist
To: conlang_learners at conlang.org
Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 9:58 AM
cool, If anyone else wants to nominate a language, just put it on the page, I'm going to go alphabetise the languages.
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 1:19 AM, Jim Henry <jimhenry1973 at gmail.com> wrote:
2009/6/15 Matthew Turnbull <ave.jor at gmail.com>:
> I've made a page on frathwiki, from a list I was making for myself
> http://wiki.frath.net/Learners_shortlist, It can just be copied onto another
> wiki, if need be.
Thanks. ?I've added a number of links, especially for Kalusa.
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Jim Henry
http://www.pobox.com/~jimhenry/
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