[conlang_learners] Conversing in the chosen one!

[Olivier Simon]

Sellamat quantims ! 
 
About the time span, I think we shouldn't "stick" to one conlang more than 4 months (or even less) before learning a new one. I've already said that I think that Sambahsa may not take too much time (afterwards, people can go on with the language on another platform). We shall not forget that this project is a kind of scientific experiment and that it'd be interesting to compare what's easy and what's difficult with an on-line teaching, with people from all around the world. You know, on other forums, there are always Esperantists who claim that Esperanto is the sole "learnable" auxlang, cause they've got teachers everywhere... Non-sense ! 
(another idea is that we should first learn Sambahsa, and then be taught another conlang in Sambahsa !!! :-° ))
 
Before Jim launched this project, I had begun to compile a list of basic vocabulary (English-Sambahsa) to help new learners better than the very detailled French-Sambahsa online dictionary I already have. I suppose it will soon be ready. 
 
An example of translation: "Mien nam est Dayle. Som trigimseptat. Gwivo in Nordeustengland. Ho tri purts. Sont kalen.... Ho un kwaun. El credeiht el est un cat. Kano ghitarr ed piano. Kamo music..."
Or "Som Dr. Olivier Simon. Som trigimpenkat. Som 1m73 buland, maigher, ho castanbrun kays ed koselglend okwi. Gwivo in Lorraine. Ho dwo ghelons ed oin cat, bet ne purts. Paursko un job ka advocat. Kamo ravane in forest...". 
 
Olivier
http://sambahsa.pbworks.com/ 


--- On Mon, 7/13/09, Dayle Hill <dwhmusic32 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


From: Dayle Hill <dwhmusic32 at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: [conlang_learners] Conversing in the chosen one!
To: conlang_learners at conlang.org
Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 3:49 PM







At what level of fluency do we anticipate, or indeed expect to arrive at with the chosen conlang? I know we won't be conversant in Thermo-Nuclear Physics, or be able to discuss the complex issues of mental health (or maybe we will?), but my reckoning is that for this project, or at least because this is the first one, if we become conversational, as in being able to:
talk about ouselves: 
self description, 
height, weight, hair colour, 
likes, dislikes, hobbies, 
favourite films, music, 
where we live, is it nice, not nice,
our family, siblings
describing a typical day in our lives and our work
where we like to travel and how we get there...........etc etc etc...then this is an excellent achievement. And I dont mean just being able to reel off the above mentioned as monotonous, one-clausical sentences: 
"My name is Dayle. I am 37 years old. I live in North East England. I have 3 children. They are called blah blah and blah blah. I have a dog. It thinks it's a cat. I play guitar and piano. I like music.......zzzzzz yawn yawn! Having said that...that in itself may still be an acheivement depending on the complexity of the conlang?
 
I guess this is what we typically learn when we begin to learn foreign languages anyway. Of course, when you attend  courses or classes, you normally begin with stock phrases and 'contrived' conversations, which is ok to get the ball rolling, but I dont see that happening here (which I think isn't too bad a thing) unless the author of the chosen conlang has created some course like lessons? 
 
Some people will inevitably become more fluent than others (I think this has already been touched upon), therefore I'll be setting my own targets, as you all probably will. 
 
It's going to be very interseting to see how the learning stage will pan out.
Dayle


"I'm strange to those who are normal, and normal to those who are strange; quite frankly-I prefer the latter"!

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