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<DIV>Of course, there is always a problem of subjectivity. A certain conlang can appear difficult for some people and easy for others. And some conlangs can have a lot of material on-line but be unpracticable for simpe communication </DIV>
<DIV>(for example, recently, on a French forum, there were people boasting that there are whole novels translated into "their" conlang, but the same people are unable to provide a few translations of short phrases like "I would like to eat bread and cheese, but no butter"...)</DIV>
<DIV>If the vote is due to take place in one month or even a few weeks, this would let some time to start experimentations "in vivo" and "ex ante". One or two voluntaries could be chosen at random to learn, or to begin to learn one of the proposed conlangs, and later to deliver their opinion. (this system might work at least with conlangs whose creator is available, like Jim for gjâ-zym-byn, Padraig for Talarian, or me for Sambahsa)...</DIV>
<DIV>This may be the least subjective system (?)</DIV>
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<DIV>Olivier</DIV>
<DIV><A href="http://sambahsa.pbworks.com/">http://sambahsa.pbworks.com/</A> <BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 7/13/09, Jim Henry <I><jimhenry1973@gmail.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Jim Henry <jimhenry1973@gmail.com><BR>Subject: Re: [conlang_learners] Now or in September?<BR>To: conlang_learners@conlang.org<BR>Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 8:18 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=plainMail>On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 10:11 PM, James Montgomery<<A href="http://us.mc574.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dreamripple@yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:dreamripple@yahoo.com">dreamripple@yahoo.com</A>> wrote:<BR><BR>> I would ask if someone who's been keeping track (ashamedly I have a habit of deleting emails), could color code the "too incomplete" or "too complex"/ "not-at-this-time" a different color on the shortlist. That may take care of a bit of a preliminary vote for us (if we're doing that) and help narrow the possibilities for the "finalists".<BR><BR>The problem with that is that "too incomplete" or other such judgments<BR>are generally one person's opinion, sometimes two or more people's<BR>opinion, contradicted by at least one other person's opinion<BR>(otherwise the conlang wouldn't have been nominated).<BR><BR>Does anyone have a suggestion for a non-prejudicial way to tabulate<BR>these preliminary
judgements? Maybe on the Talk: page of the<BR>"Learners shortlist" wiki page, with signed expressions of opinion<BR>about specific languages' suitability for the project?<BR><BR>-- <BR>Jim Henry<BR><A href="http://www.pobox.com/~jimhenry/" target=_blank>http://www.pobox.com/~jimhenry/</A><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>conlang_learners mailing list<BR><A href="http://us.mc574.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=conlang_learners@conlang.org" ymailto="mailto:conlang_learners@conlang.org">conlang_learners@conlang.org</A><BR><A href="http://lists.conlang.org/listinfo.cgi/conlang_learners-conlang.org" target=_blank>http://lists.conlang.org/listinfo.cgi/conlang_learners-conlang.org</A><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></td></tr></table><br>