<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><DIV>Ok, 1st i'd like to thank Brett Williams for nominating Dalcurian. Even though there seems to be an increasing 'no no' against IE, (Dalcurian has IE traits...but is not strictly IE), I will nominate my conlang for the list. I've worked on it for over 5 years on and off (kids and life tend to take up a lot of time), and I feel that the wiki pages are quite comprehensive when it comes to covering Dalcurian. There is currently and English/Dalcurian dictionary of over 5000 entries, but I have to create a reverse dictionary. </DIV>
<DIV>I'm currently tweaking the website to iron out any creases, and will be relocating the home page so that the name will be ''Dalcurian" and not written with its current diacritics (easier for some browsers). This should all be done within the next 2 weeks.</DIV>
<DIV>However, the current link is <A href="http://wiki.frath.net/Dal%27q%C3%B6rian">http://wiki.frath.net/Dal%27q%C3%B6rian</A> if anyone would like to have a look (please remember that most of the pages are undergoing an edit...but at least you will get a flavour).</DIV>
<DIV>I will post a 'new' link shortly.</DIV>
<DIV>Cheers</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="comic sans ms" color=#6000bf size=4>"Can the future really be predicted? Even those who claim that they can, look both ways before they cross the road"!</FONT></DIV><BR><BR>--- On <B>Thu, 18/6/09, conlang_learners-request@conlang.org <I><conlang_learners-request@conlang.org></I></B> wrote:<BR>
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href="http://uk.mc258.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dwhmusic32@yahoo.co.uk" ymailto="mailto:dwhmusic32@yahoo.co.uk">dwhmusic32@yahoo.co.uk</A>><BR>Subject: [conlang_learners] Submission of conlangs<BR>To: <A href="http://uk.mc258.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=conlang_learners@conlang.org" ymailto="mailto:conlang_learners@conlang.org">conlang_learners@conlang.org</A><BR>Message-ID: <<A href="http://uk.mc258.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=391827.67627.qm@web25803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:391827.67627.qm@web25803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com">391827.67627.qm@web25803.mail.ukl.yahoo.com</A>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR><BR>Is there a rule against submitting one's own conlang?<BR><BR><BR>"Can the future?really be predicted? Even those who claim that they can, look both ways before they cross the road"!<BR><BR><BR> <BR>-------------- next part --------------<BR>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>URL:
<<A href="http://lists.conlang.org/pipermail/conlang_learners-conlang.org/attachments/20090617/14549389/attachment-0001.htm" target=_blank>http://lists.conlang.org/pipermail/conlang_learners-conlang.org/attachments/20090617/14549389/attachment-0001.htm</A>><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 2<BR>Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:55:47 -0400<BR>From: Jim Henry <<A href="http://uk.mc258.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jimhenry1973@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:jimhenry1973@gmail.com">jimhenry1973@gmail.com</A>><BR>Subject: Re: [conlang_learners] Submission of conlangs<BR>To: <A href="http://uk.mc258.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=conlang_learners@conlang.org" ymailto="mailto:conlang_learners@conlang.org">conlang_learners@conlang.org</A><BR>Message-ID:<BR> <<A href="http://uk.mc258.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=8e02713f0906171255p231f41ai9c6b86e3b423557a@mail.gmail.com"
ymailto="mailto:8e02713f0906171255p231f41ai9c6b86e3b423557a@mail.gmail.com">8e02713f0906171255p231f41ai9c6b86e3b423557a@mail.gmail.com</A>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<BR><BR>2009/6/17 Dayle Hill <<A href="http://uk.mc258.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dwhmusic32@yahoo.co.uk" ymailto="mailto:dwhmusic32@yahoo.co.uk">dwhmusic32@yahoo.co.uk</A>>:<BR>> Is there a rule against submitting one's own conlang?<BR><BR>No, apparently not. (If I'd thought this out better I might have<BR>suggested such a rule up front, but at this point three or four people<BR>have suggested their own conlangs so I reckon other people should be<BR>allowed to do so as well.)<BR><BR>-- <BR>Jim Henry<BR><A href="http://www.pobox.com/~jimhenry/" target=_blank>http://www.pobox.com/~jimhenry/</A><BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 3<BR>Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 16:30:48 -0700 (PDT)<BR>From: Padraic Brown <<A
href="http://uk.mc258.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=elemtilas@yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:elemtilas@yahoo.com">elemtilas@yahoo.com</A>><BR>Subject: Re: [conlang_learners] Submission of conlangs<BR>To: <A href="http://uk.mc258.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=conlang_learners@conlang.org" ymailto="mailto:conlang_learners@conlang.org">conlang_learners@conlang.org</A><BR>Message-ID: <<A href="http://uk.mc258.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=420504.15830.qm@web65614.mail.ac4.yahoo.com" ymailto="mailto:420504.15830.qm@web65614.mail.ac4.yahoo.com">420504.15830.qm@web65614.mail.ac4.yahoo.com</A>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1<BR><BR><BR>--- On Wed, 6/17/09, Jim Henry <<A href="http://uk.mc258.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jimhenry1973@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:jimhenry1973@gmail.com">jimhenry1973@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR><BR>> > Is there a rule against submitting one's own conlang?<BR>> <BR>> No, apparently not.???(If I'd
thought this<BR>> out better I might have<BR>> suggested such a rule up front, but at this point three or<BR>> four people<BR>> have suggested their own conlangs so I reckon other people<BR>> should be allowed to do so as well.)<BR><BR>Perhaps it should be thought of not so much as "submitting" your own conlang, as if there were a form to fill out, as "making the list aware" of your conlang's mere existence. And since there was some talk of contacting creators and seeking permission, interest, etc., it might not be a bad idea for willing conlangers to simply state up front whether they're willing or not or whether they consider their project advanced enough for the proposed goal.<BR><BR>Also, I think it's a bad idea to rely solely on the nomination of others -- someone who has not been on Conlang for years or whose conlang is not well advertised is then at disadvantage from the system; he is not known or esteemed by the community at large
and his language is not well known or recently discussed. This way, at least an otherwise hidden language can be considered. Especially given the considerable opinion against IE and Romance conlangs: such might not even be nominated if it became assumed that such languages were not welcome in this project. While I am sure it is not the case, it does appear to me from the "short list" discussions that the ultimate object of the project has already, or very nearly already, been decided upon, and that it should not be an IE conlang in any way!<BR><BR>> Jim Henry<BR><BR>Padraic<BR><BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 4<BR>Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:45:24 -0400<BR>From: Brett Williams <<A href="http://uk.mc258.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mungojelly@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:mungojelly@gmail.com">mungojelly@gmail.com</A>><BR>Subject: Re: [conlang_learners] Submission of conlangs<BR>To: <A
href="http://uk.mc258.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=conlang_learners@conlang.org" ymailto="mailto:conlang_learners@conlang.org">conlang_learners@conlang.org</A><BR>Message-ID:<BR> <<A href="http://uk.mc258.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=a0efdb610906171645o2e5acd86q793519062341f849@mail.gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:a0efdb610906171645o2e5acd86q793519062341f849@mail.gmail.com">a0efdb610906171645o2e5acd86q793519062341f849@mail.gmail.com</A>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<BR><BR>On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Jim Henry <<A href="http://uk.mc258.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jimhenry1973@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:jimhenry1973@gmail.com">jimhenry1973@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>><BR>> 2009/6/17 Dayle Hill <<A href="http://uk.mc258.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dwhmusic32@yahoo.co.uk" ymailto="mailto:dwhmusic32@yahoo.co.uk">dwhmusic32@yahoo.co.uk</A>>:<BR>> > Is there a rule against submitting one's own
conlang?<BR>><BR>> No, apparently not. ? (If I'd thought this out better I might have<BR>> suggested such a rule up front, but at this point three or four people<BR>> have suggested their own conlangs so I reckon other people should be<BR>> allowed to do so as well.)<BR><BR><BR>Well if it helps remove any ambiguity, I'll nominate Dal'q?rian. :) I<BR>don't know much about it honestly, but the stuff on the wiki page<BR><A href="http://wiki.frath.net/Dal%27q%C3%B6rian" target=_blank>http://wiki.frath.net/Dal%27q%C3%B6rian</A> is very pretty. It can't hurt<BR>to consider it. Have you written much in it yet, Dayle?<BR><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></td></tr></table><br>