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<DIV>I wanted to stress the importance of IE languages in the world: spoken by more than half the world population. Semitic, in terms of grammar, is the most related language family; that means that all the languages of international communication, including Arabic, share nearly the same basic features. Some IE primeval roots have remained common to the languages of Europe and of India and Persia. </DIV>
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<DIV>Maybe, we should ask ourselves the question of knowing which kind of auxlang we want before going forward. Do we tend rather in the direction of natural looking languages, for international communication, or something aprioristic, which is a like a game for the brain ?</DIV>
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<DIV><A href="http://sambahsa.pbworks.com/">http://sambahsa.pbworks.com/</A> <BR><BR>--- On <B>Sun, 6/14/09, Olivier Simon <I><cafaristeir@yahoo.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Olivier Simon <cafaristeir@yahoo.com><BR>Subject: Re: [conlang_learners] IE vs non IE<BR>To: conlang_learners@conlang.org<BR>Date: Sunday, June 14, 2009, 5:39 AM<BR><BR>
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<DIV>Sellamat Jim !</DIV>
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<DIV>I'd like to recall that IE does not limit itself to Romance and Germanic. Thus Esperanto's vocabulary is, of course, mostly IE since it rests mainly on Romance with some germanic elements, but does not represent the whole of IE languages spoken nowadays. Its grammar is agglutinative, while IE is synthetic. Maybe you meant "something not exclusively Western European". </DIV>
<DIV>IE languages <BR><BR>--- On <B>Sun, 6/14/09, Jim Henry <I><jimhenry1973@gmail.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Jim Henry <jimhenry1973@gmail.com><BR>Subject: Re: [conlang_learners] IE vs non IE<BR>To: conlang_learners@conlang.org<BR>Date: Sunday, June 14, 2009, 5:27 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=plainMail>2009/6/14 Dayle Hill <<A href="http://us.mc574.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=dwhmusic32@yahoo.co.uk" target=_blank rel=nofollow>dwhmusic32@yahoo.co.uk</A>>:<BR>> Sorry, this is a re-send of the same email..had a technical hitch 1st time!<BR><BR>Actually, I got your earlier message on the same subject just fine.<BR>If you got a bounce or error or warning message of some kind after<BR>sending it, could you please forward it to me offlist?<BR><BR>> HI all. I have just joined in so forgive me for being a little ignorant. I<BR>> just wondered why there seems to be a general consensus 'against' IE<BR>> conlangs, or at least conlangs with IE features? Are we looking to learn<BR>> something that has a grammar 'unlike' any natural language, or a conlang<BR>> that has a completely unique lexicon?<BR><BR>I can't speak for everyone on the list, but I think some of us are<BR>(other factors being equal) more inclined to
learn a language that's<BR>interestingly different from the language(s) we already know. Most if<BR>not all of us have an Indo-European language as our native language,<BR>and many of us have previously studied one or more other IE natural<BR>languages, or IE-based conlangs, in the past; so this time out we're<BR>looking for something farther afield. It's not that we (most of us<BR>at least) have a prejudice against the IE family or specific IE<BR>languages or against the idea of creating IE-based conlangs; it's just<BR>that such languages are too familiar to be appealing in the context of<BR>this kind of project.<BR><BR>For instance, all the natlangs I am anywhere near fluency in are IE<BR>languages, and I've thorougly learnt one conlang with an IE-based<BR>lexicon and approximately IE-like grammar (Esperanto) and studied<BR>several IE-based alternate history conlangs to the level necessary to<BR>translate out of or into them for
conlang relays. In spending the<BR>amount of time and energy on a conlang that this project would<BR>involve, I'd like to work with something non-IE.<BR><BR>-- <BR>Jim Henry<BR><A href="http://www.pobox..com/~jimhenry/" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.pobox.com/~jimhenry/</A><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>conlang_learners mailing list<BR><A href="http://us.mc574.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=conlang_learners@conlang.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow>conlang_learners@conlang.org</A><BR><A href="http://lists.conlang.org/listinfo.cgi/conlang_learners-conlang.org" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://lists.conlang.org/listinfo.cgi/conlang_learners-conlang.org</A><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR></DIV><BR>-----Inline Attachment Follows-----<BR><BR>
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